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Inside Deborah LeBlanc's Life as a Death Scene Investigator, Celebrity Paranormal Expert and Hypnotherapist

• Lauri Wakefield • Episode 16

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In this episode, we explore the extraordinary life of Deborah LeBlanc—a licensed death scene investigator, seasoned paranormal expert, and the resident clairsendium in the upcoming Discovery Channel series Through the Veil. With over 27 years of experience and more than 500 investigations, Deborah uses her clairsentient abilities to uncover what others overlook—like the unmarked mass grave she identified by simply tuning into the sensations beneath her feet. Her fascination with the unseen began in childhood, inspired by her grandmother’s matter-of-fact stories about the spirit world. 

Today, that curiosity drives not only her investigative work but also her creative pursuits as a best-selling horror author and founder of Literacy Inc., a nonprofit fighting teen illiteracy across the U.S. Alongside her work in the paranormal, Deborah empowers individuals and organizations through her role as a Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist and Master NLP Practitioner—helping others break through internal limits and live more aligned, purposeful lives.

Key Topics Discussed:

  • Deborah’s work as a death scene investigator and how her clairsentient abilities guide her in the field.
  • The upcoming Discovery Channel series Through the Veil, where she explores haunted sites as a spiritual detective.
  • How her real-life paranormal experiences inspire her horror novels, including bold research methods like being locked in a casket.
  • Her use of hypnotherapy and NLP to help clients break free from limiting beliefs and reclaim their potential.

Noteworthy Quote:

"I’ve learned to put certain things on a shelf—if you carry it all, it’ll weigh you down."

Deborah's Bio:

Deborah LeBlanc is a Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist and Master NLP Practitioner who helps individuals and organizations break through limitations and achieve lasting success. An award-winning, best-selling author of 16 novels, she’s also a licensed death scene and private investigator with over 27 years in paranormal investigation. Deborah is the resident clairsendium in the upcoming TV series Through the Veil, and founder of Literacy Inc., a nonprofit dedicated to ending teen illiteracy across the U.S.

More About Deborah:

Website: mindpaththerapies.com/

Author Website: deborahleblanc.com/

Workshops Deborah Offers

Info About "Through the Veil"


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Lauri Wakefield [00:00:41]:
Hi. Welcome to the Inspired Living for Women podcast. Thanks for joining me today. I'm your host, Lauri Wakefield, and my guest today is Deborah LeBlanc. Is that how you pronounce it?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:00:51]:
Deborah LeBlanc.

Lauri Wakefield [00:00:52]:
Okay. You wanna say hi, Deborah?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:00:55]:
Hi. Thanks for having me, Lauri.

Lauri Wakefield [00:00:58]:
Very interesting person we have here today. So Deborah LeBlanc is a certified clinical hypnotherapist and Master NLP Practitioner. She helps individuals and corporations achieve success. She's an award winning author, investigator, and motivational speaker, as well as founder of Literacy Incorporated dedicated to fighting teen illiteracy across America. A couple other things I wanted to add to that is that you are - we'll talk about it. Why don't we just do that? We'll talk about it. So you you are an author of 16 different novels. 

Deborah LeBlanc [00:01:34]:
Yes

Lauri Wakefield [00:01:35]:
You know what? Before we get into that, let's talk about your childhood because some of the things that that you do right now, you some of the work, which I didn't mention, but it's in the paranormal field or realm. Was there anything from your childhood that led you into that or that made you realize that you had the ability to do that type of work?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:01:56]:
I suppose the catalyst would have been my grandmother. She always told us stories, and for her stories were made of things about fairies and princesses. They were real life situations. She used to tell us stories about some uncle that went to some plantation, and something happened to him there. And I was always fascinated with what she had to say because I knew my grandmother. . . I've never known my grandmother to lie. She passed away about ten years ago. She passed away at a hundred and one. Throughout those years, I've never known her to lie. And she spoke a lot about the paranormal, and it's not something that she gravitated to. She just knew it existed, and I think that's what gave me that curiosity. What else is out there? How does it communicate with our world? And that's what got me sorted on it was my grandmother.

Lauri Wakefield [00:03:01]:
Okay. Some of let's talk about the novels that you write because they're horror novels. So that that's really interesting. Like I told you before we started the, recording, like, when I look at you, I would never think, oh my gosh. I would think, I don't know. Maybe personal development stuff. Maybe I don't know if I would say romance, but just things that are a little bit lighter. So the novels that you've written, are they based on or were they based on real life events? Were they just based on things that you, some of it probably was. 

Deborah LeBlanc [00:03:31]:
A lot of them. A lot of the books that I've, in fact, all of the books that I've written have some factor of truth in it from something I experienced at a paranormal investigation, something that I sensed, I picked up. All of them carry some form of truth. There's one book called Grave Intent. I have the character winds up getting locked in a casket. And to make that scene come to life, I had a friend of mine who was a funeral director actually locked me in a casket so I know what it would feel like.

Lauri Wakefield [00:04:08]:
Right.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:04:08]:
Yeah. I was locked in there for about fifteen minutes. And-

Lauri Wakefield [00:04:13]:
Are you my friend, really? Are you gonna let me out?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:04:17]:
Oh, that was a hoot because I kept hearing him messing with the lock and the door. The top lid wasn't opening, and I started banging. Let me out of here. But it was an experience that I wanted to bring to the reader. Nobody's gonna say, oh, that didn't really happen. When you're locked in a casket, this doesn't happen. I wanted it to feel real. And so to the reader so to do that, I had myself locked in a casket Right. To make sure I got it right.

Lauri Wakefield [00:04:49]:
So your paranormal work has led you to, you're a licensed death scene investigator.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:04:57]:
Yes.

Lauri Wakefield [00:04:58]:
And how did you get into that? Did someone come to you, or did you offer to help? 

Deborah LeBlanc [00:05:07]:
I actually, was working with funeral homes for about ten years. And working with funeral homes and especially with some of the corners in the state of Louisiana anyway, we have coroners. We don't have medical examiners. They contact me whenever there was an unusual case, a homicide and suicide or something they thought I might be interested in. They were, I was just friends with the coroner. And, one particular case came up that I really got a strong sense something else was happening there. They were talking, I heard the police officers and the detectives talking about it. But because I wasn't a licensed death scene investigator, I wasn't allowed in that circle. So what I did was I went back to school, actually in Dalton, Georgia and became a licensed death scene investigator. So I could hang out with the detectives and talk about the scene and what my impressions were. And sometimes I got them looking in directions they hadn't thought of.

Lauri Wakefield [00:06:15]:
Right. So that's interesting. Is that something that you do occasionally? Is that something that you've done several times?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:06:23]:
I would say I've done probably 500 cases.

Lauri Wakefield [00:06:28]:
Oh my gosh. And is it all locally or throughout the United States?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:06:32]:
Throughout the United States.

Lauri Wakefield [00:06:34]:
Okay. Which explains your role in the Through the Veil. Is that a series, or is just a, like, a movie?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:06:43]:
No. It's gonna be a series of a team and I investigating some purportedly haunted locations.

Lauri Wakefield [00:06:52]:
Okay. You wanna talk a little bit about that? Like, the information I was able to gather about it is that you're the House Clairsendium. Is that what it's called? 

Deborah LeBlanc [00:07:09]:
Yes.

Lauri Wakefield [00:07:10]:
Okay. And so that basically means that you're the you're a location based clairvoyant? And it hasn't started filming yet?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:07:13]:
It's, we've already got the sizzle ready to go. We have filmed, our first haunt was in Fort Jackson, and that's what's probably gonna air first. I just don't have an air date yet. But it's gonna be on the Discovery Channel.

Lauri Wakefield [00:07:30]:
Oh, okay. Okay. So when you're at a scene, we can go back to the death scene. Like, when you're at a scene like that, is it that you have an immediate feeling when you walk into it, or is it something that you just allow yourself to get quiet and just, like, connect with? I guess it would be the spiritual realm. Right? Wouldn't that be what you would call it?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:07:53]:
Usually, when I walk, I just step out of my car and put my feet on the property. I start picking up images right away.

Lauri Wakefield [00:08:03]:
Okay.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:08:03]:
For example, like Fort Jackson, with that was a, which is a large facility. I was walking near picnic tables that were set out, and then I guess people that visited the port would sit and have lunch or whatever it may be. But I started getting some tingling a tingling sensation under my feet. Well, as I was standing there, and I was looking around and trying to figure out what this was tingling, what is new to me. And so I just I walked around in a circle. That circle got a little bigger, and then when I got outside of a certain sphere of that circle, it stopped. So I got back in that same place I was walking, and then it it hit me. I was walking on top of a mass grave. The caretaker, it just so happened about that time, the caretaker who was with one of our lead investigators came over to where I was standing. And I said, I don't know if anybody's discovered this or not, but there is a mass grave right under our feet here. And the guy the guy looked at the lead investigator, and he looked back at me and he turned his face it turned white.

Lauri Wakefield [00:09:22]:
Okay.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:09:22]:
And he said, this is a mass grave. Nobody but me knows the location of that grave. You're the first person to ever locate it. So it happens things like that happen. I'll get a tingling sensation. I also will get certain words flash through my mind. I'll see scenes like a scenes almost like a movie I've seen before that'll flash through my mind. That'll give me specific instructions on where to go, who might have been there. For example, I went into a house once, and I walked into the room and there was an elderly man there, and he was in bed. I introduced myself. One of the investigators introduced himself, and we chatted for a bit, and we left. And I told the investigator, I said, the man doesn't have a year to live. He'll be gone in about four months.

Lauri Wakefield [00:10:24]:
Wow.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:10:25]:
And sure enough, four months later, he did pass away. They wanted us back at the house to see if his spirit had saved lingered there. And I went into that bedroom. I walked into the bathroom, and the first word that just blew up in my mind was grass. Grass. And I I said it out loud because it was so loud in my head. I just said, grass. What does it say with grass? And there was a woman behind me that lived on the house, and she started laughing. And she said before, they called him Papa Joe, before Papa Joe passed away, they caught him smoking pot in that bathroom. So that's where grass came from. But it's little things, like, that'll pop into my head or just come to my name or come to me or I've been at conferences or have given motivational speeches. And sometimes there was at one point, there was somebody, a young man sit sitting in the audience that I kept picturing this elderly woman behind him saying how much she loved him. It was so overpowering, so overwhelming, and she wanted me to tell him. And I couldn't wait to finish my talk because I had it's like I had to get to this guy. Sometimes it works like that. And she had a very unusual thing, and I asked the guy. I said, do you know someone by the name of Aya? And he goes, he just looked at me. He says, that's my grandmother. I said, she's been standing behind you the entire time I was up there, and there's so much love for her for you. She's so much love for you, and she's so very proud of you. And he just started sobbing. He he's very close to his grandmother. And then once I've said it to that person, then it gets released in me.

Lauri Wakefield [00:12:30]:
Right. I was gonna ask you, do you find it troubling at all sometimes when you are picking up on things, or are you just, like, neutral? Just, like, a channel that it flows through?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:12:40]:
Just a channel that it flows through.

Lauri Wakefield [00:12:41]:
So it doesn't evoke any type of emotion or anything other than that. It's just, you feel it, you say it, and it's gone. Right?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:12:49]:
Yeah.

Lauri Wakefield [00:12:50]:
Okay. Yes. What about, are people ever intimidated by you, even people in your community? If they're a little bit, oh, I don't wanna know.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:12:58]:
Yeah. I get that a lot. It's not news that I share openly with my neighbors. But those that do know what I do, they have a I get one or two reactions. They stay away or they come or they always probably curious. Very curious. To see if I could pick up any messages for them.

Lauri Wakefield [00:13:26]:
Yeah. What ethnicity are you? Are you just, like, a lot of different ethnicities or is that what your-

Deborah LeBlanc [00:13:32]:
I'm Acadian.

Lauri Wakefield [00:13:35]:
Okay. But do you have, like, any Native American, any okay. So maybe that's, was your grandmother part Native American?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:13:44]:
Yes. She was.

Lauri Wakefield [00:13:44]:
So maybe yeah. Maybe that's where some of that comes from. I wonder if it's passed on genetically. You know what I mean? Just through, do you know what I'm talking about?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:13:54]:
I don't know if my mother had that gift because she had a lot of problems. She was, she raised the three of us, my two siblings and myself as a single mom, and she was very physically and verbally abusive.

Lauri Wakefield [00:14:10]:
Okay.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:14:11]:
So she I don't know if she had that, but I do know that all three of my daughters had that gift. They're all different. I have one that's in a very strong empath. And, unfortunately, I lost two of my daughters about six years ago, a year apart.

Lauri Wakefield [00:14:28]:
Yeah. I'm sorry.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:14:30]:
And they were both very intuitive. And I would bring them on certain hunts with me. And my middle daughter, for example, she would pick up a lot, and she was just a spitfire. She just loved doing it, and there's just something about getting that energy to flow through you to someone else, hopefully, to give them hope. That's really why we do it.

Lauri Wakefield [00:15:00]:
So you do speaking. How often do you do speaking?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:15:04]:
As often as someone asks me to speak. It can be five times a month, once a quarter. It just depends. Everything depends on who's out there and is here to speak-

Lauri Wakefield [00:15:18]:
Right. 

Deborah LeBlanc [00:15:18]:
to their room.

Lauri Wakefield [00:15:19]:
So is it, you do it nationally, or is it more, like, within the area that you live?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:15:25]:
Internationally.

Lauri Wakefield [00:15:26]:
Oh, wow. Okay. So what do you have different topics that you talk about? It says motivational speaker, so you do it to motivate people. And what is the underlying message that you're trying to get across when you do

Deborah LeBlanc [00:15:40]:
That no matter what they've been through in life or what they're going through in life, that there is a special quality and innate ability that they have that they can release, and I show them how to find that and to just learn to live your true self. And I teach them how to do that.

Lauri Wakefield [00:16:04]:
So you, some of the work that you do now, is it mainly, like, when you work one on one or with small groups, is it mainly hypnotherapy? Or is it, because I know you have a lot of different things that you're able to do. You have NLP and, and some other things that you do. But is it mainly hypnotherapy now?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:16:23]:
With small groups, I can, I do group hypnotherapy? It just depends on what, for example, if I'm doing it for a company, for their sales force, I can do a group hypnosis on breaking limiting beliefs, help their salespeople reach not only reach their goal, but exceed the goals that have been set for them. And it just depends on the mindset of the corporation I'm working for.

Lauri Wakefield [00:16:53]:
So you were good, to ahead.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:16:54]:
Sometimes I'll get called in by women's groups, chapter of some chapter of a woman's group somewhere in the US that just wants a motivational speaker. And, really, what they want is for me to see how many people I can read in the audience. They need to find out- I do talk about my paranormal experiences and do read people in the audience.

Lauri Wakefield [00:17:22]:
Okay. That's interesting. Like an underlying motive. Here, we want you to listen to the speaker to get this and this out of it. In the meantime, it's what did you find out about my audience? Yeah. But that's good. Both the people that ask you to do it and the people who are in the audience are gonna gain something from it. So you talk about it on your website. It's Mind Therapies. Is that what it is?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:17:47]:
Mind PathTtherapies.

Lauri Wakefield [00:17:48]:
Okay. And I'm gonna link to that. But anyway, so you talk about what hypnosis is and what it's not. You wanna just go into that a little bit?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:17:58]:
Hypnosis is really about finding oneself. It's about letting go of all past limiting beliefs, whether they were put there by our own doings or by a parent, by teachers, spouses. It doesn't matter. We all of us at some point carry limiting beliefs that keep us from meeting our true potential. It keeps us from really stepping out and taking in this the life that we deserve. All of us deserve happiness, fulfillment, joy, success, and whatever degree they view success. I don't go out there and tell people look next week you're gonna drive a Lamborghini. But what I do tell them is that there is a road to get you there that you have not tapped into yet. And hypnosis, if you're watching Hollywood movies or-

Lauri Wakefield [00:18:58]:
Yeah. It's like the pendulum or whatever it is back and forth.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:19:01]:
Yeah. You don't. It's not about reading somebody's mind. I'm a little different, though, because I can usually, if I'm talking to a client and all my sessions are held over Zoom, because I do have a client base around the world. So I can usually pick up from Zoom just our interaction, something else going on with that person. So it can lead my questioning to where it needs to be instead of just fluff.

Lauri Wakefield [00:19:34]:
Yeah. I read, because you have a whole page on, I don't know if it's a whole page. At least it's a a large section on the page that talks about what it, what hypnosis is and what it's not. And you talk about that that people are not, they're very aware of what's going on when they're under hypnosis. Can, you wanna talk a little bit about that? Because I think sometimes, I don't know, that people might think that there's they're not really aware, and it's, like, completely unconscious, and it's not. Right?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:20:01]:
No. It's not. Think of hypnosis like when you have you ever driven a long distance on a highway that has really nothing if you've driven out west at all? You know what I'm talking about. There are no stores. There are no billboards. It's just flatlands, and you're driving and driving. And sometimes you get from point a to b, and you don't realize how you got there. You go into road hypnosis.

Lauri Wakefield [00:20:30]:
Right.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:20:31]:
And it's similar to that. You're present, but your mind is allowed to go somewhere else. In hypnosis, you're fully conscious of what's being said, what's being done. I can't, I won't, I can't make you quack like a duck. I'm not gonna make you do anything ridiculous, or it won't go against anything you hold dear morally or go against your value system. It's something you have full control over. You can to some people, most of my clients, after they have a session, it's like they just woke from a nap.

Lauri Wakefield [00:21:12]:
Okay. They feel refreshed kinda.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:21:14]:
They recall everything that that was said, but it was, it's like back there somewhere, but it was just like they would've, it was like a remembering a dream. That's what it feels like to them.

Lauri Wakefield [00:21:30]:
Okay. So this series Through the Veil, I wanna talk about that again. So when you, and that's interesting too because that has to do with haunted houses. Right? Whether or not a house is haunted. How did they pick out these houses?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:21:46]:
Usually, word-of-mouth. Old plantation homes are always supposed to be haunted. There are a lot of places in New Orleans, for example, that are haunted. It's just word-of-mouth that gets around that something strange happened to somebody at a location, and they want us to check it out to see if it's real to see what's there.

Lauri Wakefield [00:22:08]:
Do you ever have houses that are supposedly haunted that you've walked in and you felt nothing? 

Deborah LeBlanc [00:22:13]:
Yes. 

Lauri Wakefield [00:22:14]:
Okay. Is that common?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:22:16]:
I would say probably 30% of the houses that in the locations that I go to, I will say there's nothing here.

Lauri Wakefield [00:22:25]:
Okay.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:22:26]:
There's nothing here. There was one situation where a father got in touch with the team, and it was on Christmas Eve. And he was really scared because his daughter was saying that she kept having a man show up in her room that was saying he was gonna kill her on Christmas Eve night so she couldn't have Christmas with her family. So they wanted us to go check out their place to see if there was really anything there. And when I got there, I didn't feel anything. I picked up some odd readings through my EMF detector, but that was because they had 40 different appliances tied into one small electrical cord. And that causes an EMF reading to go very high. So I had them change that. But I realized that the father was over exaggerating. Any little thing that happened, he over exaggerate something. And I could tell by the that the little girl was picking up on this. So I did something. Instead of saying there's nothing here, what I did was I took some sage and I burned the sage, and I let the little girl hold the stick of sage. And we went from room to room, and I'd have her repeat after me to get rid of it.

Lauri Wakefield [00:23:54]:
So it made her feel safer. Right?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:23:55]:
Yeah. Yeah. So by the time we were done, when we came back, they lived in a trailer. When it when we came back into the living room, and I put the sage out and I said, now how do you feel? She says, it's gone. I said, and look you did that.

Lauri Wakefield [00:24:12]:
Yeah.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:24:13]:
So sometimes you have to use just a little bit of psychology. Because telling them, it's telling a father who is over exaggerating because he needs attention, telling him there's nothing there would have set off a whole new dynamic that little girl didn't need.

Lauri Wakefield [00:24:35]:
Exactly. Yeah. Yep. You handled that one well. Yeah. Okay. So another thing that you do, you founded the Literacy Incorporated, which is dedicated, which I said at the beginning, to fighting teen illiteracy across America. So what prompted you to start that?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:24:53]:
It started after I wrote my second book. I was doing a book tour around the US, and I was going into a lot of bookstores. Some of them that had little cafes and little coffee shops. And I would see some teens sitting out there hanging out, and I would just go talk to them. Hey. What are you guys reading? What do you that's cool about this place? And every teen I spoke to, and this didn't matter what state I was in, I kept hearing the same thing. I don't like to read. We just come out here to hang out with our friends. And I heard it over and over again, and I just thought, who is gonna be the leader of this generation if they're not reading? And so many of them were illiterate. If they were they may have been 16 years old, but reading on a third or fourth grade level.

Lauri Wakefield [00:25:44]:
Wow. Okay.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:25:44]:
It was scary to me. So I started Literacy Inc. I started out by giving away books to high schools around the country, and then I started giving out e-readers so the students could choose the type of books they wanted to read. And it was just my way of trying to protect that generation because it's almost like we lost them somewhere. Mothers now with young children are understanding the benefits of it, and they're reading to their children. People my age already understand the benefits of reading and keeping up with things. But the that generation, the millennials seem to, they just got lost, and we didn't grab them fast enough to say, hey this is important. Some are catching on, but very few. It's very disheartening.

Lauri Wakefield [00:26:42]:
Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was gonna ask. Do you see that it's made a difference, but, like, some difference, but not as much as you'd like? Is that right?  

Deborah LeBlanc [00:27:50]:
Yeah.

Lauri Wakefield [00:26:51]:
Okay. I was gonna ask you too. Do you ever and I don't know. This is kind of a I don't know. It probably wouldn't seem like a weird question to you, but do you believe in past lives? Yes. Okay. Do you believe that people you meet sometimes, like, that you've known them, I'm sure you have, that you've known them from a past life? 

Deborah LeBlanc [00:27:09]:
Yes. My current husband, I felt that way.

Lauri Wakefield [00:27:12]:
Okay.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:27:14]:
In fact, I tell him, what took you so long to find me? What took you so long?

Lauri Wakefield [00:27:20]:
Yeah. How does he, does he ever get, you guys have been together, I'm sure, for a while, so he knows you well. But does he, has he ever been intimidated by the, I guess you would call it a gift, a spiritual gift.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:27:34]:
He's never been intimidated. 

Lauri Wakefield [00:27:36]:
Well, that's a good thing. Yeah. Because it's something I-

Deborah LeBlanc [00:27:39]:
very yeah. Very supportive.

Lauri Wakefield [00:27:41]:
Yeah. It's super interesting. I mean, I have I have some friends that are, I've always been careful with the spiritual realm. I'm like a one God believer, but I the spiritual world is real. I believe that we are spirits in physical bodies. I believe all that, and there's just there's stuff that that scares me at times about it. Stuff I would never wanna know or even I don't know, just things that- Do you does it ever like, with yourself now, because I know I asked you at a death scene investigation if you're able to just let it go through you and you feel it here and speak it and then it's gone. But, like, things that, is there anything ever troubling, like, with you that you experience, like, yourself, away from all that, not doing it for anybody else, but just being, in your day to day life that you see or feel or hear?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:28:33]:
Things, there are things that have happened that I've seen that have stuck with me over the years. Yeah. And it's just when this kind of conversation comes up, they come to mind.

Lauri Wakefield [00:28:45]:
Okay.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:28:46]:
But, typically, I've got to learn to put them away on the shelf somewhere because you carry all that stuff around with you and wind up being weighing you down.

Lauri Wakefield [00:28:56]:
Yeah. So do you wanna talk about any of the services? We talked about the hypnotherapy, but is there anything else that you'd like to talk about that you offer to people?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:29:08]:
I can speak to different groups, women's associations, even to men's associations. Men are the ones that are more skeptical about what I do. But in motivational speaking, I can connect with them very well. Okay. Whether it's dealing with a problem your company may be going through or something that you're going through, chances are I can be of service to them either as a group or.

Lauri Wakefield [00:29:38]:
Okay. So that's gonna wrap things up for this episode. Thanks for so much for joining me today. If you'd like more information about Deborah, you can visit her website at mindpaththerapies.com. I'll link to the website in the show notes. I'll also link to your, I found your author page or your author website, so I can link to that with the 16 books on it. And then where can people if they're interested in the series that's coming out, the Through the Veil series, where can they get information about when it's released? I guess if they watch the Discover channel, but people some people probably don't. So how can they find out when it's released?

Deborah LeBlanc [00:30:16]:
I'll I will announce it on my author page.

Lauri Wakefield [00:30:19]:
Okay.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:30:19]:
And on so I have someone that takes care of my social media stuff as well, so it'll be announced there as well.

Lauri Wakefield [00:30:27]:
Okay. And where are you on social media? You're,

Deborah LeBlanc [00:30:31]:
LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok.

Lauri Wakefield [00:30:35]:
Okay. Those are big ones.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:30:37]:
Yeah. 

Lauri Wakefield [00:30:38]:
Okay. So I'll and I'll also link to the services that you offer, which are on your website. If you'd like to see the show notes for today's podcast, you can find them on my website at inspiredlivingforwomen.com. The show notes will be listed under podcast show notes episode 16. If you'd like to join me as I continue my conversations with other guests exploring topics for women 40, please be sure to subscribe to the Inspired Living for Podcast. Thanks again, and have a great day.

Deborah LeBlanc [00:31:04]:
Bye. Thanks.