Inspired Living for Women: Conversations With Women Over 40

Understanding Perimenopause: Essential Knowledge for Women Over 40

• Lauri Wakefield • Episode 28

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In this episode of Inspired Living for Women, Terry Tateossian—founder of THOR (The House of Rose) and wellness advocate for women over 40—shares essential insights on navigating perimenopause, a stage that can begin as early as the mid-30s yet often goes unrecognized. In a candid, empowering conversation, she reveals how sleep, resistance training, and personalized nutrition form the foundation for hormonal balance and vitality, and explains why cellular regeneration slows during this transition. Through her intimate wellness retreats, Terry offers women the tools, community, and perspective to move through midlife feeling stronger, more resilient, and fully aligned with their body’s needs.

✨ Topics Discussed:

  • The surprising reality that perimenopause can start in the mid-30s—and why so many women miss the early signs
  • Three key pillars for supporting hormonal health naturally: quality sleep, resistance training, and personalized nutrition
  • How cellular regeneration slows during perimenopause and the lifestyle shifts that can help counteract it
  • The power of small, intimate wellness retreats to restore energy, build community, and support women’s midlife transitions.

Key Takeaways:

  • Perimenopause can begin much earlier than most women realize, making early awareness critical for managing symptoms.
  • Quality sleep, strength training, and protein-rich nutrition are foundational for maintaining hormonal balance and vitality.
  • Supporting cellular regeneration through lifestyle changes can ease the physical shifts of midlife.
  • Connection and shared experience in small, supportive communities can transform the perimenopause journey.

Noteworthy Quotes from Terry:

"For the first time, I felt empowered that I could get my life back on track and stop dreading getting older."

"One of the biggest mistakes women make is being undernourished while doing excessive cardio."

"Your body regenerates millions of cells every second, but the speed and quality decline with age, making nutrition, strength training, sleep, and stress management essential."


Terry's Bio: Terry Tateossian is the founder of THOR: The House of Rose, a wellness community dedicated to helping women over 40 thrive through fitness, nutrition, and mindset retreats. A certified personal trainer, nutritionist, hormone specialist, and host of the podcast How Good Can It Get, she guides women in moving beyond outdated health advice to embrace strength, vitality, and lasting self-trust. An award-winning entrepreneur, Terry is passionate about redefining midlife as a season of clarity, power, and reinvention—both inside and out.

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Lauri Wakefield [00:00:41]:
Hi, welcome to the Inspired Living for Women podcast. Thanks for joining me today. I'm your host, Terry Tateossian and my guest today is Terri. Even though you told me how to pronounce it before we got on the call, why don't you go ahead and pronounce it for me? Tateossian, right?

Terry Tateossian [00:00:56]:
Correct. Terry Tateossian.

Lauri Wakefield [00:00:58]:
Okay, so Terri is the founder of Thor T H O R which stands for The House of Rose. It's a wellness community supporting women over 40 through fitness, nutrition and mindset retreats. She's a certified personal trainer and nutritionist, hormone specialist, and host of the podcast How Good Can It Get? Terri helps women move away from outdated health advice and towards strength, vitality and lasting self trust. She's also an award winning entrepreneur and an advocate for redefining midlife as a time of clarity, power and reinvention. Reinvention. So that says a lot, Terry.

Terry Tateossian [00:01:36]:
Thank you, Lauri, for having me. I'm humbled by the introduction. I'm blushing.

Lauri Wakefield [00:01:41]:
Yeah. Are you really? Yeah. Well, that's, that's all stuff that's true. So, so we were going to start, and even, even though this isn't something that you're currently doing, we were going to start with where you're career actually be began and what you, what you initially studied. You were in it.

Terry Tateossian [00:01:59]:
Yes. So I actually went to school initially. Well, there's so many twists and turns and plot twists and all kinds of things, but I initially wanted to go to law school. So I started off my collegiate years studying political science, understanding how the world works, understanding statistics and economics and things like that. And then my parents moved to FLaurida. So I ended up not wanting to move to FLaurida and my fourth year actually in college and I decided to stay in New York. So what that meant was that I would have to get a full time job, pay for my own apartment, all of my expenses and still continue going to school full time. And I tried to do that for about a semester and a half. I had a full time job in New York City on Madison Avenue, working as an assistant to a paralegal. And I was going to school in Stony Brook University. So for those who know what that means, it's about two hour training train ride back and forth. And I would stack my classes on Tuesdays and Thursdays. So I would try and get my college degree completed. And eventually I could not do it anymore. I was exhausted most of the time. So then I had to figure out what to do next. So I started working full time as a paralegal. I learned all the court systems, I learned everything. And it finally dawned on me that I was never going to be able to go to law school. I did not have anybody to support me through that. I did not have any type of assistance. It was going to require a full time effort.

Lauri Wakefield [00:03:39]:
A lot.

Terry Tateossian [00:03:41]:
Yes. And I couldn't quit my job. So there was no way. And most law schools actually will not accept you if you're working full time. And so that had to be taken off the table for me. However, in the process of working as a paralegal back then, I started realizing that I was really good with computers and engineering and I would walk around the office and fix people's computers and help everyone there with any kind of issues. And I guess I got really good at it. And at that time in the 90s, there was a big boom. The dot com boom started taking place. Right. So a lot of engineers were being recruited into the field. There was a lack of engineers back then. Back then was a shortage of experts and specialists in particular programming languages, software development, etc. So I said to myself, well, why, like, I really like this. I'm actually looking at troubleshooting, connecting the dots and figuring things out. And I went back to school. So I transferred all of my credits from Stony Brook into Pace University and I restarted my major into in computer science. And I would work in the city and go to school in the city. That was totally doable. And I finished a computer science degree. I actually got hired as a software engineer in a law firm.

Lauri Wakefield [00:05:01]:
Okay.

Terry Tateossian [00:05:02]:
I stayed in the law, in the law industry for quite a number of years, almost eight years. And if you know anything about the legal industry in New York, it's very small, although very big, and everybody knows each other. And when you become a specialist in something, you become very. You're in high demand, essentially.

Lauri Wakefield [00:05:23]:
You're popular.

Terry Tateossian [00:05:25]:
Yes. Especially the billing software. And yeah, so I loved, I loved where I worked. It's one of my greatest memories. Law firms are a fantastic place for a lot of Reasons. They're also very hectic and stressful. I totally understand.

Lauri Wakefield [00:05:47]:
High power. Yeah.

Terry Tateossian [00:05:48]:
Yes. But they were great. So even back then, you know, they had really great benefits, four weeks vacation, all kinds of things that were very unusual for the day and age at that time and work from home opportunities and things like that. But eventually I had a kid and I just, I chose after my maternity leave to leave the workforce because I was living in New Jersey, working in New York City, it was a two hour community most days. And I really, really did not feel comfortable leaving my baby.

Lauri Wakefield [00:06:25]:
Right.

Terry Tateossian [00:06:26]:
And so that's how I exited the corporate world and ended up starting my own businesses. And you know, over the years, I've had over eight different types of businesses. A lot of bombs, a lot of E commerce. I would build the platforms on my own because back then we did not have Shopify and WordPress wasn't even born back then. Or maybe it was in its very beginning stages. There was barely Facebook. I mean, it was Friendster in MySpace. And so yeah, so I would build them myself and I would use, like.

Lauri Wakefield [00:07:01]:
Using code, you mean?

Terry Tateossian [00:07:02]:
Correct. Correct.

Lauri Wakefield [00:07:03]:
Wow. Okay.

Terry Tateossian [00:07:04]:
Yes. And I would use the drop shipping method to figure out what types of products were popular on Google and drop ship those products on my websites of E commerce that I would build. And so little by little, people started asking me, how the heck are you doing that? You know how to do that? And that's how the agency format was born. I started the agency with zero clients, absolutely nothing. You know, because a lot of agencies are started from other agencies. So people leave an agency and then they go and they start their own agency. I did not go that route. I built it with my own two hands. And yeah, so that's, that was the journey.

Lauri Wakefield [00:07:50]:
Wow. Pretty. That's very impressive. Yeah. So, okay, so how long did you do that? Or when did you, when did you transition into the health and wellness industry? At what point in your life?

Terry Tateossian [00:08:05]:
So I never intentionally transitioned into health and wellness. I was a client first. So it was, it was unintentional. I ended up finding myself 80 pounds overweight. I was wearing maternity clothes still. Three years after my last kid was born. I ended up being hospitalized twice. I was pre diabetic. I was having all kinds of problems that I could not get a hold of. I could not manage that. Right. So I was working. I was working, you know, 16, 17 hour days. I had two little kids.

Lauri Wakefield [00:08:43]:
Yeah.

Terry Tateossian [00:08:43]:
There was no time.

Lauri Wakefield [00:08:44]:
A lot. Yeah. So do you, do you think just the, the busyness of your life was where The Was where the. I don't want to say lack of self care, but the. But like where you weren't putting yourself or your needs far enough in front for you to be able to take care of yourself. Was it where the weight kind of crept in, you think?

Terry Tateossian [00:09:04]:
The weight crept in. The emotional starvation crept in. The unhappiness crept in, the overwhelm crept in. Right. So massive, massive, just panic in internal panic that I had no way to release that I was drowning. Right. But on the surface, I had to be a leader, be strong, manage a business, take care of children, be a caretaker and all of these things. And so there was no time to even address my internal.

Lauri Wakefield [00:09:49]:
Right, right.

Terry Tateossian [00:09:50]:
And so what I would do is I would just eat my way into it. I would drink, it was, you know.

Lauri Wakefield [00:09:56]:
Yeah. Or just grab things just to put food in your mouth because you were hungry, you know, and so there was like no time to. To, you know, maybe take care and try to fix yourself something that was healthier to eat. So. So. Okay, so. So during that time, then you ended up getting help somewhere along the way. And then that's kind of where it opened the door to you getting into the. Into that field. Right.

Terry Tateossian [00:10:19]:
I experienced such an existential shift when I under. Finally understood what my problem was because for all of this time, I believe there was something wrong with me. You know, I'm not smart enough to figure out my own body. My body's working against me, it's out of control. You know, all of these stuff, thoughts, you know, I'm not good enough, I'll never lose weight. Right. So that's another really big one, like hopelessness, all of these things. And when I realized that that was all incorrect, that was all complete nonsense. Okay.

Lauri Wakefield [00:10:59]:
Yeah. Things you were telling yourself, Right? Yeah.

Terry Tateossian [00:11:02]:
Yes. And. And so when I started seeing results, that was the most transformative thing I had ever experienced in my life. For the first time, I felt empowered that I could do this. I could get my life back on track. I could be in a better position as far as my health was. I did not have to dread my birthdays and, and be depressed that I turned or older. I didn't have to look in the mirror and ask myself, who the heck is that? Because I recognize her. Right. And so that was such a catalyst for me. It. It made my entire body sing from the mountaintops so that women could hear. I wanted women to hear the story because I know I am not the only one.

Lauri Wakefield [00:12:03]:
Right, right. And that it's possible to change things. Yeah. So do you think, like, did you ever have an issue with weight before that or had you always been just a normal weight?

Terry Tateossian [00:12:18]:
In my childhood, I was underweight. I was never overweight. I never, I didn't have an issue. You know, there's a little bit of an overweightness in my family, but nothing severe.

Lauri Wakefield [00:12:33]:
You never experienced it. Yeah, so. So do you think so, so where did you start with, with the £80? Was it. Did you go seek help because of the way you felt, or did you go seek help because you wanted to lose weight or both?

Terry Tateossian [00:12:48]:
So I ended up thinking, believing that I was having heart attacks twice. So heart disease does run in my family. And going into ER two times, they couldn't find anything wrong with me. They gave me a Xanax and sent me home. And they said, you need to lose weight. And I, you know, would follow it up with cardiologists and they couldn't really find anything significantly wrong. I didn't have a stroke. I didn't, you know, that I had a small heart murmur, but it wasn't anything that was, that would have caused the hospitalizations. And so I, I went to a holistic doctor and I said, I don't know what to do. This is what's happening. I had pre diabete. I obviously had significant panic attacks and all these things were happening around 37. And she said to me, you need to lose weight, so let's work towards that. And that's how it all began. Eventually, I did drop about 30 pounds. I was terrified that I would gain it back. And that's when I hired a coach, and that's when everything changed for me. So when I hired my coach, she started teaching, teaching me how to weightlift properly with resistance, how to eat properly with enough protein and the right amount of carbs and fat for my body. Not just some exactly generic diet out there. It was very personalized. And little by little, I started seeing results. Like my body basically was waiting for this protocol.

Lauri Wakefield [00:14:23]:
Yeah.
So that, that's really interesting. Okay, so, so you went through that. How long did it take you to lose the 80 lbs.?

Terry Tateossian [00:14:36]:
About two years. So the first year I dropped 30 lbs., and the next year I dropped 50 lbs.

Lauri Wakefield [00:14:40]:
Yeah, I mean, that's the best way to do it, you know, because that means that you're, you're actually changing things that are going to make it, make it stick and you're, you know, doing things that are healthy for yourself. So when did you decide to get into the health and Wellness field yourself.

Terry Tateossian [00:14:57]:
So as I was going through my own transformation and as I was building strength, my body composition was changing. A lot of people started asking me for help, and I would try and help them, but I did not have any certifications. I didn't have any formal qualifications. So I would try to help them, but I would always say, like, hey, you know, I don't. I'm not certified in this stuff. Like, I can tell you what I'm doing.

Lauri Wakefield [00:15:21]:
Right.

Terry Tateossian [00:15:21]:
I'm not necessarily the right person for you. You know, here, talk to my coach or talk to a coach that has a lot more experience. And it h. It started happening so often that I was like, all right, you know, let me get. Let me get the education right. Because this is such a thing that keeps coming up in my life. People. People asking me to help.

Lauri Wakefield [00:15:45]:
Right. People. Yeah, people need it.

Terry Tateossian [00:15:46]:
Right. And it was never my intention. It was such a deep hold. It was such a rewarding calling that I felt to do it. I was so passionate about it.

Lauri Wakefield [00:16:01]:
Yeah.

Terry Tateossian [00:16:01]:
And so, yeah, so I went that route. I got all the certifications. I went into the emotional eating coaching route as well. And really understanding the psychology behind food addiction, because I believe I was most definitely had. I had an eating disorder. And in my 40s. Imagine eating disorder in your 40s is a real thing. And so, like a newly diagnosed one. And so that's how it all happened. It was very much unintentional.

Lauri Wakefield [00:16:36]:
Okay, so. So you did that part of it, and then you eventually got some certifications in for menopause. Right. Okay, so why don't. Why don't we talk about that a little bit? That's something. How long have you been doing that? The medical menopause coaching? And that's. Is that all, like, part of what you offer, or is it a separate part of, you know, what you. What you help your clients with?

Terry Tateossian [00:17:05]:
So. So I don't do, like a separate standalone pause coaching type of thing. I did get the certification because I needed to understand how food and hormones are related and how we can best support our body through this natural and very normal transition.

Lauri Wakefield [00:17:29]:
Right.

Terry Tateossian [00:17:30]:
So that.

Lauri Wakefield [00:17:31]:
Yeah. So why don't we talk about that then? The natural ways to support the transition.

Terry Tateossian [00:17:38]:
Absolutely. So one of the top ways is optimizing our sleep, making sure we're getting eight plus hours of sleep. Right. The next thing is resistance training, making sure we are preserving our lean muscle mass, because at about age 30, we start losing muscle mass naturally. And this is the case for both men and women. And so doing resistance Training will help us preserve and also develop more lean muscle mass, which works wonders in your body. It's, it's the organ that helps you metabolize food properly, it gives you energy, it helps you avoid all kinds of issues down the road. It balances things out for you, it absorbs sugar, it does all kinds of things. Right. So there's a very big reason to do resistance training, not just hormones, for overall health. And, and then the third thing that I would just recommend three things. Right. So there's a lot of other ones we could talk about, but optimizing our nutrition, right? So making sure we're eating an adequate amount of protein for our body weight. Every person is different. So it's not a one size fits all. Optimizing our carb and fat ratio compared to that protein number and just making sure that we're aligned with our goals. Right. So some women need to gain weight, they're underweight, some women need to lose weight, they are overnourished. Right. So depending on where you are and some people don't need to do anything, they just might be interested in body recomposition or at all. Right. So I don't want to spin this in a way where you constantly have to be doing something, you know, losing weight gain.

Lauri Wakefield [00:19:37]:
Right, Right.

Terry Tateossian [00:19:38]:
Some people are okay, they're, they're doing really well and they don't have any type of requirement of, you know, gaining or losing weight. And that's fantastic. And so those would be the three things that I would most definitely focus on. Some of the common mistakes that I see really often that backfire with women specifically is undernourished and doing a lot of cardio. And that's just programming we've received over the years that that's the way to stay fit, to be healthy, to look good. You know, there's this really big pull towards being a size 2 and 120 pounds. And you know, all of these things out on social media nowadays, it's, it's unbelievable. As soon as I open Instagram, I'm inundated with these things and they are so individual. Right. So everybody, you know, is it comfortable at a different rate? And just because you see someone on Instagram that's 120 pounds, that does not mean that that's your right.

Lauri Wakefield [00:20:41]:
You don't know how tall they are and things like that. You don't know their bone structure and. Yeah, so, so when you work with the women that you work with, do you, you offer both like group coaching and one on one coaching.

Terry Tateossian [00:20:56]:
Yeah. So there are two coaches at Thor, myself and Nurse Kelly, and we work with our. So two coaches, one client. And we also work together as a group. We have two monthly meetings every month and we have, you know, things that we discuss with, you know, frequently asked questions, different books that we're reading in our book club. We have a Facebook group as well for additional information and support and recipes and things like that. But it's both really, I believe that it's necessary to have a really nice intimate connection with each client stand where they're at.

Lauri Wakefield [00:21:36]:
Right. Because the reason I was asking that we have a couple other things that we're going to talk about. But the reason why I stopped and asked about that is because if you're working with the women individually, what are you looking at to determine what their body needs?

Terry Tateossian [00:21:50]:
So the first thing that we do is we ask to see the food diary for a week. Right. Just to see how somebody's eating naturally and normally what their normal routine looks like. And then based from there, we start to make changes. Now, most of the time what I am seeing is protein is very much under.

Lauri Wakefield [00:22:13]:
Yeah, Right.

Terry Tateossian [00:22:14]:
So where I'll see someone eat 700 caLauries one day and then 2, 500 caLauries the next day, and then 600 caLauries the following day and 1500 caLauries the following day, you know, that's where you average inconsistency.

Lauri Wakefield [00:22:28]:
Yeah.

Terry Tateossian [00:22:28]:
Yes. And it comes out to about 70 to 80 grams of fat protein per day, which is barely enough to function just to sit around and. Right. And that's the main thing that I see almost instantly. And a lot of times, just changing up the ratio and keeping things consistent on a daily basis starts to move the needle for women, which is. Right. So you stay in an isocaLauric phase, meaning we don't change your caLauries, your average of your caLauries per day, we just change the consistency and the amount per day to be the same. And all of a sudden the body's.

Lauri Wakefield [00:23:07]:
Like, yes, that's just what I needed.

Terry Tateossian [00:23:11]:
Yes. Isn't that incredible?

Lauri Wakefield [00:23:13]:
Yeah, yeah, it is. Yeah. It's like it, like it just sucks it up or drinks it in. Yeah. So. So do you see a difference between, like vegan protein or animal protein?

Terry Tateossian [00:23:27]:
Vegan protein versus animal protein? Yeah, not really. I mean, okay, whatever your preferences are, that's where that's the best solution. Right. So there's so many vegan protein options out there. Now, if you are vegan, your macros might look a little bit different. Right. Because we would have to take into account things like lentils, legumes, tofu, things like that, which are a little bit higher as far as carbs are concerned.

Lauri Wakefield [00:23:58]:
Are you talking about like a complete protein? Is that, is that what you're talking about or, or something out in the macronutrients?

Terry Tateossian [00:24:06]:
No, the total macros for the day.

Lauri Wakefield [00:24:08]:
Okay.

Terry Tateossian [00:24:09]:
So, you know, someone who's vegan might have a little bit more carbs, for example, in their budget every day. Right. Account for protein that is derived from, let's say, legumes and lentils and like that. Yeah.

Lauri Wakefield [00:24:28]:
Okay. So. So another thing that you help women with is the sex hormones balance. So which, which hormones are you talking about? Estrogen and Progesterone are probably 2. Testosterone also. And what, what other hormones are there?

Terry Tateossian [00:24:45]:
So I do not directly touch anything to do with estrogen, testosterone, or progesterone or estradiol. Right. So that is, I would say, out of my lane and scope of practice. What I do emphasize is to get tested every few months. Not too much, every month is too much, but at least every six months or at least get a benchmark before you start making life style choices. Okay, so let's say you start working with me and, you know, some of the prerequisites would be, hey, you know, why don't we get a really good panel done so we have a good benchmark and we know where we started from to see if all these lifestyle changes are taking. Making a difference. Right, right. And the other one is a DEXA scan. Right. So we want to get a good body composition to know what the percentages are as far as bone mass, muscle mass, and fat mass. And then let's say six months later, we. We repeat that process and see what the differences have been. Now, the nutrition and the resistance training and incorporating better sleep, incorporating enough hydration, electrolyte, sodium, potassium, all of magnesium. Right. So all of these changes eventually will.

Lauri Wakefield [00:26:08]:
Lead to help balance things out.

Terry Tateossian [00:26:10]:
Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, paying attention to all of these things and incorporating them into your lifestyle, there's no going wrong here. Right. There's no downside and there's no health risk to you making these changes. It could only help you.

Lauri Wakefield [00:26:31]:
Right. Make you healthier.

Terry Tateossian [00:26:33]:
Mm. It's just having that intention. Right. So knowing and measuring where you're at when you start and where you're at, you know, four to six months into it, incorporating things like sweet potato, for example, because that is a precursor to progesterone. Incorporating a lot of green vegetables, broccoli, cauliflower, all of these vegetables contribute to helping you produce, you know, as much estrogen, testosterone, progesterone and estradiol as possible.

Lauri Wakefield [00:27:06]:
Right, okay. So. So when you do work with women, is it. Is it something that's an ongoing or is. Or is there like a. Like, is it a six month program or how does that work?

Terry Tateossian [00:27:18]:
It's ongoing. So I don't have a limitation. I don't have a maximum number of months either. Now the reason is because sometimes, you know, people sign up and they don't actually do the work. And so if I had a three month minimum, I would have to get frustrated for three months.

Lauri Wakefield [00:27:40]:
Right.

Terry Tateossian [00:27:41]:
So I need to be able to let go of clients so I can make room for people.

Lauri Wakefield [00:27:46]:
Right, right. And let them go at their own pace. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. I mean, some people have, you know, I think sometimes it does work better when you don't have a, you know, a set. Well, this is a six month program, so. Because it gives people flexibility, you know, and to move when they're ready. I mean, they may want exposure to it, but they're not ready to jump in and actually do, you know, take the action that needs to be taken and stuff like that. So something I saw, it might have been. I don't know where I saw this. The big secret about menopause, no one wants to tell you. What's the big secret?

Terry Tateossian [00:28:21]:
The big secret is that it can start in your mid-30s.

Lauri Wakefield [00:28:26]:
Wow. Okay.

Terry Tateossian [00:28:28]:
Yeah, I didn't know that. That was not. I didn't get the memo.

Lauri Wakefield [00:28:34]:
Yeah. So. So they're talking about basically where. Where like estrogens dropping and stuff like that. Is that. Is that what they mean by that or.

Terry Tateossian [00:28:43]:
No. When all your menopause symptoms begin in your mid-30s.

Lauri Wakefield [00:28:47]:
Oh, my gosh. Wow.

Terry Tateossian [00:28:48]:
You start entering perimenopause.

Lauri Wakefield [00:28:51]:
Yeah.

Terry Tateossian [00:28:52]:
30S, which is what happened to me.

Lauri Wakefield [00:28:55]:
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, sometimes I guess that can happen like, like physical, you know, illnesses or things like that can trigger it or, you know, other things. Yeah. Wow.

Terry Tateossian [00:29:06]:
Yeah. It's also a genetic predisposition. Right. So women enter perimenopause very early. Sometimes it is triggered by stress or any other conditions. Maybe being overweight. I. I'm not sure what exactly it was, but I entered perimenopause at 37 and I was.

Lauri Wakefield [00:29:26]:
Yeah.

Terry Tateossian [00:29:27]:
By 42.

Lauri Wakefield [00:29:28]:
And you probably didn't. You're probably like, what the heck is going on?

Terry Tateossian [00:29:32]:
I had no idea.

Lauri Wakefield [00:29:33]:
Did you know? Yeah. I mean, you just thought, okay, well, like, I know for myself there are things. It just. It doesn't occur to Me to talk to another woman? Like. Like, did this happen to you? You know what I mean? It's like, you just think it's the way it is because it's happening to you. Right.

Terry Tateossian [00:29:46]:
Yeah. I thought I was losing my mind.

Lauri Wakefield [00:29:48]:
Yeah.

Terry Tateossian [00:29:49]:
Like, oh, my gosh, what is going on? Everything was just acting up.

Lauri Wakefield [00:29:55]:
Yeah.

Terry Tateossian [00:29:55]:
I was a teenager once again, so.

Lauri Wakefield [00:29:58]:
Yeah.

Terry Tateossian [00:29:59]:
Just things got really, really wonky.

Lauri Wakefield [00:30:03]:
Yeah.

Terry Tateossian [00:30:03]:
And I had no clue. I really. I. I was so completely dumbfounded. I had a conversation earlier today where the host asked me if. When did I know that I was in menopause? When did I realize I was in menopause? And the answer was really funny because I did not know I was in perimenopause until I was postmenopausal.

Lauri Wakefield [00:30:31]:
Wow. Okay. Yeah, I. Like, I know for myself. I. I mean, I was in my early 40s, I guess, at least. Like, that's when I. When I kind of started noticing things. Like, my periods got, like, really heavy or, like, really. I don't know, just weird. They were just different, you know? Like. And I. I don't really know if I thought anything about it. It was just. I was just going through it, and then, like, the hot flashes. I had no idea. I'm like. You know what I mean? Like, when you get that like. Like a. Like a furnace in your face.

Terry Tateossian [00:31:04]:
Yeah, I do.

Lauri Wakefield [00:31:06]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Terry Tateossian [00:31:08]:
So I thought I was burning body fat.

Lauri Wakefield [00:31:12]:
Oh, really? So this is a good thing. Keep it coming.

Terry Tateossian [00:31:16]:
Yes. I was so proud of them whenever. Every time I get one, because I had started working out at that point, so every time it would happen, I was like, yes.

Lauri Wakefield [00:31:28]:
It'S working. Yeah, it's so silly.

Terry Tateossian [00:31:33]:
And then the funny. The funniest part is when. So when my period did ditch me finally.

Lauri Wakefield [00:31:40]:
Yeah.

Terry Tateossian [00:31:41]:
The last time I thought I was pregnant, so I was kind of having, like.

Lauri Wakefield [00:31:45]:
Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

Terry Tateossian [00:31:47]:
Down.

Lauri Wakefield [00:31:48]:
Yeah. Really?

Terry Tateossian [00:31:50]:
Yeah, no, it's. It's pretty funny, but not that funny.

Lauri Wakefield [00:31:54]:
Yeah. Someone who's really. I follow her occasionally. Dr. Carrie Jones. Have you ever heard of her? Yeah, she's. Yeah. I mean, she is. She's so funny, too, to listen to because she's very. She's very raw, you know, with the way that she explains things, which is. She's interesting. So let's talk about the. The Five Secrets to Reverse Aging. What are those?

Terry Tateossian [00:32:17]:
Oh, we talked about them already.

Lauri Wakefield [00:32:19]:
We did.

Terry Tateossian [00:32:20]:
Okay, so. Okay, so. So I want to. I want to your listeners to hear this astounding fact. Our human body re. Generates an estimated 2 to 3 million cells, I'm going to have you guess, multiple choice. 2 to 3 million cells per second. Minute or hour.

Lauri Wakefield [00:32:50]:
It would be a gas. It would be completely a gas, I guess. Yeah, it's going to be completely a gas. I mean, I like, maybe. Maybe per second.

Terry Tateossian [00:32:59]:
Yes. Really?

Lauri Wakefield [00:33:01]:
Now that is amazing.

Terry Tateossian [00:33:02]:
Okay, 2 to 3 million cells per second are regenerated in our body, regardless if we are male or female. Right. However, the quality and the efficiency and the speed of that regeneration declines with age. Right. Especially around midlife. We're not that great at it. Right. And of course, it's due to hormonal changes, you know, decline in estrogen, things like that, pause, menopause, etc. Now, here's the other one that I want you to guess. The gut lining cells, they renew every day, week or month.

Lauri Wakefield [00:33:51]:
Oh, my gosh. It's another guess. Yeah. Like what doors are behind? I. Maybe every month. I'm not sure.

Terry Tateossian [00:34:01]:
So the gut lining renews every two to five days.

Lauri Wakefield [00:34:05]:
Okay.

Terry Tateossian [00:34:06]:
So our body uses the nutrition that we put into it, like the protein and carbs and fat to regenerate itself constantly. So every second, 2 to 3 million new cells every two to five days. Gut lining skin cells how? Okay, so skin cells renew 30 to 40,000 per second. Minute, hour or day?

Lauri Wakefield [00:34:40]:
Per day?

Terry Tateossian [00:34:41]:
Per minute.

Lauri Wakefield [00:34:43]:
Oh, my goodness. So I'm one out of three. Wow.

Terry Tateossian [00:34:47]:
And then our bones, our bone cells renew completely every year. Five years or 10 years?

Lauri Wakefield [00:34:58]:
I might say every year.

Terry Tateossian [00:35:01]:
Every 10 years. Right. So we're constantly in a state of regeneration.

Lauri Wakefield [00:35:06]:
Yeah.

Terry Tateossian [00:35:07]:
Now, during perimenopause, menopause, this slows down. Right. So we have oxidative stress increases, our mitochondrial function declines, our collagen production drops. Right. We have more inflammatory responses and things like that. Now, this is why. Nutrient quality, strength training, sleep and stress management, those are your secrets to regeneration. Critical for supporting regeneration. And I don't say regeneration as in I want to look 20 years old again.

Lauri Wakefield [00:35:49]:
Right.

Terry Tateossian [00:35:50]:
That's not going to happen. Right. But I do want to look my age and I want it right. You know, the best fuel possible.

Lauri Wakefield [00:35:58]:
Right, Exactly. Yeah. Because it's not so much about what you, what you look like or the outward stuff, it's what's going on on the inside. You know, you want to prevent disease and you want, you know, to, you know, just be healthy. I mean, like longevity and stuff like that. So, yeah, I mean, it definitely, that's encouraging. But, but yeah, that. I mean, it definitely, definitely depends on what you, what you're putting into your body. How. How it's going to regenerate. I mean, is it going to be good or bad? So very interesting. So let's talk about the. The retreats that you do. Do you have your own. Your own space for that? Yes. Okay.

Terry Tateossian [00:36:38]:
Yeah. So the retreats next year are going to be in Tennessee in this Cherokee National Forest. There's about, I believe, 15 retreats happening at that location. There's going to be a retreat in Sedona in the beginning of June, and there's going to be a retreat in the Cognac region in France.

Lauri Wakefield [00:37:00]:
Oh, nice. Yeah.

Terry Tateossian [00:37:01]:
Yeah. So there's, I believe, about 20 retreats happening next year. This year we're completely sold out. I actually had to add two more dates. There's one at end of October, August that's still available, and one in the beginning of October that I just opened up the date. But we've been sold out retreats for 20, 25. Since last month, completely.

Lauri Wakefield [00:37:22]:
Wow. Okay. So. So what. What do. What do they do at the retreat? How long is it?

Terry Tateossian [00:37:28]:
The retreats are five days long, four nights. And the majority of the time we spend doing restorative exercises like Vinyasa yoga for your nervous system. We do restorative yoga. We hike in nature and literally in waterfalls. We bathe in waterfalls. We eat nutritious food. We hang out together, talk about all these things we just talked about with you, Lauri. And we try to get a lot of sleep. And so they're my absolute love project. I have met, yeah. Many fantastic women over the last three years, and I'm so grateful for it because our community is growing and where we share our experiences, the better it is for everybody.

Lauri Wakefield [00:38:17]:
Yeah. Yeah, that sounds really interesting. So how many women do you have on each. For each retreat?

Terry Tateossian [00:38:23]:
So they're very small. The 10. The maximum is 10.

Lauri Wakefield [00:38:26]:
Okay, well, that's good. That's a nice size. So. So, yeah. So was there anything else that you wanted to add to what we've talked about?

Terry Tateossian [00:38:38]:
Absolutely. So if you're a woman out there going through perimenopause and you're. Maybe you're in your mid-30s or mid-40s, and you think. You feel like you're losing your mind, you are not.

Lauri Wakefield [00:38:50]:
Okay, call Terry.

Terry Tateossian [00:38:54]:
You're not. This is. The more I talk about this, the more women come forward and say, oh, my God, happening to me. And so there's hope out there. There's a lot of things you can do. There's a lot of modalities you can implement into your life, but sleep, man, sleep. And stress management, absolutely top priority. And then nutrition and strength training are very helpful to manage all, all those things. Right. So hang there. I will see you on the other side.

Lauri Wakefield [00:39:24]:
So that's going to wrap things up for this episode. Thanks so much for joining us today. If you'd like more information about the products and services Terri offers, you can visit her website@thehouseofrose.com if you'd like to see the show notes for today's podcast, you can find them on my website@inspiredlivingforwomen.com the show notes will be listed under Podcast show notes, episode 28. If you'd like to join me as I continue my conversations with other guests exploring topics with women over 40, please be sure to subscribe to the Inspired Living Feature for Women podcast. Thanks again and have a great day.

Terry Tateossian [00:39:58]:
Bye, everybody.